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On the other hand, [[wikipedia:IDL (programming language)|IDL]] is strongly influenced by APL and is common in many scientific fields. Maybe it should be included.
On the other hand, [[wikipedia:IDL (programming language)|IDL]] is strongly influenced by APL and is common in many scientific fields. Maybe it should be included.
-- [[User:Marshall|Marshall]] ([[User talk:Marshall|talk]]) 23:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
:* So dzaima/APL → BQN?
:* Being APL-like is not a criteria for inclusion here, but RAD is necessarily more APL-like than K and I. It is basically APL with K's array model/K with APL's symbols. Not sure why you think Rowan isn't all that APL-like.
:* I'll let SHARP APL take the place of SAX as influencer on Dyalog APL, and then SAX can go from the simplified chart.
:* I'll take PPL and Speakeasy out of the simplified chart.
:Do you have a source for APL influencing IDL? The only thing I could find was https://rwoconne.github.io/rwoclass/astr511/IDLresources/idl-faq-ivsoft-v4.html saying that ''[SOL] was an APL influenced array oriented language with some primitive graphics capabilities. The resemblance to IDL was there, but very faintly.''.
:[[User:Adám Brudzewsky|Adám Brudzewsky]] ([[User talk:Adám Brudzewsky|talk]]) 08:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:55, 24 May 2021

Possible cuts

The reduced version is smaller but still pretty difficult to navigate. I think the following languages could be cut without any important loss:

  • dzaima/BQN is just another BQN implementation.
  • RAD and Rowan are very obscure and not all that APL-like. As is I; the only reason to keep it would be BQN influence.
  • No reason to separate A and A+. I think this actually cuts a level of depth from the tree.
  • Dyalog's page says it's influenced by SHARP, not SAX; SAX's page should probably be changed.
  • PPL and Speakeasy are pretty obscure, and not needed to explain APL's influence on S and MATLAB.

On the other hand, IDL is strongly influenced by APL and is common in many scientific fields. Maybe it should be included.

-- Marshall (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

  • So dzaima/APL → BQN?
  • Being APL-like is not a criteria for inclusion here, but RAD is necessarily more APL-like than K and I. It is basically APL with K's array model/K with APL's symbols. Not sure why you think Rowan isn't all that APL-like.
  • I'll let SHARP APL take the place of SAX as influencer on Dyalog APL, and then SAX can go from the simplified chart.
  • I'll take PPL and Speakeasy out of the simplified chart.
Do you have a source for APL influencing IDL? The only thing I could find was https://rwoconne.github.io/rwoclass/astr511/IDLresources/idl-faq-ivsoft-v4.html saying that [SOL] was an APL influenced array oriented language with some primitive graphics capabilities. The resemblance to IDL was there, but very faintly..
Adám Brudzewsky (talk) 08:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)