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I don't think this presentation is really accurate. Yes, the name "Disclose" might be used for either [[Mix]] or [[First]], and both of these are (left) inverses of [[Enclose]], but it's not right to say they are the same function and it's definitely not right to call that function "Right Shoe". This page should be Disclose (disambiguation) instead. I would still redirect Disclose to [[Mix]] as it's used in this way in the APL2 and SHARP families, where only the NARS family uses it for [[First]]. --[[User:Marshall|Marshall]] ([[User talk:Marshall|talk]]) 12:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
I don't think this presentation is really accurate. Yes, the name "Disclose" might be used for either [[Mix]] or [[First]], and both of these are (left) inverses of [[Enclose]], but it's not right to say they are the same function and it's definitely not right to call that function "Right Shoe". This page should be Disclose (disambiguation) instead. I would still redirect Disclose to [[Mix]] as it's used in this way in the APL2 and SHARP families, where only the NARS family uses it for [[First]]. --[[User:Marshall|Marshall]] ([[User talk:Marshall|talk]]) 12:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
:The text "right shoe" was a simple editing mistake which I've fixed. In the "early experiments" you refer to on the Mix page, there's mention of a ''Reveal'' function which would be this very function with behaviour on non-scalars not being dictated, and each implementation choosing its behaviour instead. Disclose should definitely not redirect to Mix as it is still [http://help.dyalog.com/latest/#Language/Primitive%20Functions/Disclose.htm Dyalog's official name for ⊃] (i.e. First). This page could be called "Disclose (disambiguation)" but there's really no reason to clutter the title. I've added the history and historic name. [[User:Adám Brudzewsky|Adám Brudzewsky]] ([[User talk:Adám Brudzewsky|talk]]) 12:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)


Actually, it might be better to put this discussion in [[Enclose#Inverse]] (with appropriate links from Mix and First). That makes it easy to find without interfering with people who are just trying to look up a particular function. --[[User:Marshall|Marshall]] ([[User talk:Marshall|talk]]) 12:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Actually, it might be better to put this discussion in [[Enclose#Inverse]] (with appropriate links from Mix and First). That makes it easy to find without interfering with people who are just trying to look up a particular function. --[[User:Marshall|Marshall]] ([[User talk:Marshall|talk]]) 12:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
:The text "right shoe" was a simple editing mistake which I've fixed. In the "early experiments" you refer to on the Mix page, there's mention of a ''Reveal'' function which would be this very function with behaviour on non-scalars not being dictated, and each implementation choosing its behaviour instead. Disclose should definitely not redirect to Mix as it is still [http://help.dyalog.com/latest/#Language/Primitive%20Functions/Disclose.htm Dyalog's official name for ⊃] (i.e. First). This page could be called "Disclose (disambiguation)" but there's really no reason to clutter the title. I've added the history and historic name. [[User:Adám Brudzewsky|Adám Brudzewsky]] ([[User talk:Adám Brudzewsky|talk]]) 12:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
:This is a possibility, but then Disclose should redirect to [[Enclose#Inverse]].
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